WoMon:Chthonic WoMai
Sukebei's first attempt to solve the suffering Alyssia experienced from the conflict between complete pacifism and being a cold calculating killing machine lead him to make the Chthonic Aequis, They are unable to have lower than a Size 4 Heart.
Let me explain “We’re great”
The gulf between “I’m great” (Size Three) and “we’re great” (Size Four) is huge — Grand Canyon huge.
The biggest challenge is moving individuals from Level 3, to Level 4. The secret is to find something that unites them into a tribe, that is greater than their individual competence. When individuals come together and find something that unites them, something very important happens, the group gels, the language is less “I” and more “we”. The tribe changes from a group of highly motivated but individually-centric people to something larger. Size 4 tribes can do remarkable things.
If your toured a Size 4 company. You would find a Christmas tree in their lobby, even though it was not Christmastime.
Going through the call center. You notice how it's decorated, it looks like something out of a Peanuts cartoon. People are applauding for you. They don't know who you are and they don't care. And if they did, they probably wouldn't applaud. But you'll notice the level of excitement. Notice, again, how they decorate their office. Now, what's important to people in a Size 4 tribe?
My question is simple, "What do you think they value?"
These may not be the things that are important to you. But they value things like fun. And they value creativity. One of their stated values is, "Be a little bit weird." And you'll notice they are a little bit weird.
Employees volunteer time in the advice booth.
So when individuals come together and find something that unites them that's greater than their individual competence, then something very important happens. The group gels. And it changes from a group of highly motivated but fairly individually-centric people into something larger, into a tribe that becomes aware of its own existence. Size Four tribes can do remarkable things. But you'll notice we're not at the top of the mountain yet. There is, in fact, another Size.
When groups get to this point, they see themselves as a tribe with a common purpose. They commit to shared core values and hold one another accountable. They will not tolerate The Office-style performance or the personal agenda of Size Three and if force to participate in them will devolve instantly to Size 3 Hearts.
So they always expect things to turn out the worst they can imagine, yet they still try anyway. yet as they are suck at level 4 or 5 they can't tell if they are easing or increasing those they are trying to help.
Chthonics know this, and so they don't even think about consider how their actions will make others feel.
Chthonics feel all the suffering they cause others 100X more than their victims, but are able to resist trying to help people anyway. Chthonics are stuck at level 4
The worst that can happen is what they were expecting anyway, so it is impossible to let a Chthonic down and since they are constantly being surprise by how much better than expected, they are always happy even when they are mopey.
This makes Chthonics appear unable to empathize with anyone else like a narcissist, in reality that feel the pain of others even more acutely than others
"Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't listen." is the credo of Chthonics.
Let's watch this clip of Rick being Chthonic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7HmltUWXgs
Harem mate:Hay <Chthonic> I have a science project do by this weekend;do you think you could help me out?
Chthonic: *indiffeant* Whatever.
Tamer:Well traditionally Science Projects are a Tamer-Aequis thing.
Chthonic: Well scientifically traditions are an idiot thing.
Chthonic: creates a homunculus while eating dinner.
homunculus:What's my purpose?
Chthonic:Pass the butter
- homunculus gets the butter and takes it back to it's creator*
Chthonic:*genuine, deeply sincere from the bottom of her* THAnk you!
Alpha: <Tamer> I need a ride to work. I'm busy helping <Harem mate> with science!
Chthonic: I'm busy.
Alpha:Doing what?
Chthonic: eh-Anything else.
homunculus:What's my purpose?
Chthonic:You pass butter.
- homunculus looks at its hands*
homunculus:Oh my god!
- homunculus drops over in despair*
Chthonic:Yeah welcome to the club pal. I didn't even get that much.
You think he was angry, with he was trying to offend, busy doing literally anything else.
But he was really trying to protect her from hearing, "I'd rather be waterboarded than to that." He did the polite then and made a nice pleasant sound excuse, and She would leave it alone, so he told her the literal truth. He was trying to be polite and when that fell he fell back to brutal honesty.
The only way it could be a more perfect example was if he tacked on "I didn't even get that much." to the end.
This was Sukebei's original solution to the conflict between the desire for peace and harmony and the intolerance of evil that The Aequilibrium Evertendi would need in the WoMai that Alyssia experienced.
